Friday, June 12, 2020

E Plus Summer Range Test

Now that most of the region was in phase 2, it was time for a range test. I could have just figured out a loop of the right length but there was no way my ass would survive nearly 4 hours in a car in one shot so decided that a goal was better so the plan was lunch in Portland and back to my home in Olympia. Round trip distance; 242 miles.  There is of course the Olympic Peninsula route but a pending EA site in Port Angeles means I might just have to wait for that site to open first. The other thing was I had already promised myself my next peninsula trip  would be with my Son camping... somewhere.

The Plan

The route will be 90% freeway. I decided a Thursday would be best for minimal traffic. Heading down in mid morning, spending enough time in town and heading back mid afternoon, I would miss any rush hour traffic. Only real requirement. The destination has to be less than 3 miles off the freeway.

I used cruise control set to 65 mph and only needed to bump the speed in 1 mph increments up and down to account for traffic.  Over half the trip the speed limit was 70 with 60 in Olympia, Tumwater, Centralia/Chehalis and Vancouver/Kelso. 

SOC; GOM Verses LEAF Spy

It should be well known that the dash info is not a good tool to use for a range test.  Recently someone did a range test in the Plus stopping at 1% SOC (maybe it was 2%)  to charge figuring that they had really "risked it for science" by going that far. It took me several minutes to recover from my uncontrollable bout of laughter which is why when anyone asks the best method to extend the range of the LEAF, my answer is "Get LEAF Spy."

LEAF Spy allows you to set your own miles/kwh.  So simply decide where you need to go, how far it is and then use LEAF Spy to find your target miles/kwh figure.  What I do is simply take off aiming for .1 mile/kwh over my target to see if I can reasonably hit it. This doesn't always work due to prevailing winds, terrain, etc.  but if its a goal that seems unreasonable, I start planning charging options while still over 80% SOC and 200 miles to play with.  

Now the reasons should be quite obvious. Despite both being labeled "SOC"  they don't even run on the same scale.   The GOM runs 100% to Zero (or "_ _ _"  which does appear after 1%)  LEAF Spy runs from about 98% to 1.5% and both LEAF Spy numbers are dependent on cell balance.  The highest charge I have ever gotten was 99.3% but typical is the mid 97's to the low 98's. The lowest 1.4% so the range of LEAF Spy's SOC meter is essentially less than 97%.   Now we know that LEAF Spy shows "real" SOC and if the GOM showed "usable" SOC, I would be OK with that, but it doesn't.

So what I did is record the LEAF Spy SOC every time the GOM SOC ticked downwards.  I was able to capture each reading as the GOM updated except for 7 but at no time did I miss more than one reading (IOW, I caught 77%, missed 76% and caught 75%) I used the dictation program on my phone so it was simply a question of logging the data into a spreadsheet after I got home.

Now LEAF Spy only shows SOC in .1% increments but does not actually calculate it that way and there were a few times when LEAF Spy incremented a split second after the GOM so I took the lower reading in those cases.  This means a .1% variance is possible.

Points to Ponder

** In ECO mode, I had an estimate of 251 miles but in D mode, the estimate was 235 or just a touch over EPA.  LEAF Spy estimate was 252.2 miles at 4.5 miles/kwh and 1% SOC (my average over past 3 days before test was 4.4 miles/kwh)

** At 88.0% SOC, Both the GOM and LEAF Spy AGREE!!

** At 59% SOC GOM/ 63.0% LEAF Spy, the range estimate agrees (LEAF Spy set to 4.3 miles/kwh to match GOM)

**The largest gap happened at 22 and 21% when the gap was 10.7%.  This a radical change from previous versions of the LEAF which includes the 40 kwh LEAF where the reserve continues to grow all the way to zero which means...

** The GOM seems to run in 3 distinct phases; The first incrementing .8 or .9% from 100% changing to .7 or .8% in the mid ranges and then starting at 20% SOC, over 1% until the final gasp where its a 1.8% increment from 1% to ZERO.

** The data


There are many scientific reasons why we should not charge beyond our needs. We all know full charges increase the rate of degradation but the ideology that 80% is a golden number is also wrong. You want to stay around 50% SOC as much as possible for longest life.  But I recently came across a LEAF Spy screenshot that I was convinced was altered or "something"

Notice something here? Ok forget the ultra tight cell balance, the HUGE degradation, etc.   Look at the lower left corner; 100% SOC??? WTF!!!   This explains the degradation issues.

Has anyone ever seen anything like this? I was shocked when my 40 kwh pack charged to 99.3% It only did it once and 2nd highest was 98.54% The rest were in the 97% range. In an effort to see how high I could go I bumped my charge twice (unplug when charge is complete and plug in to restart) and got no more than 98.3% (poor top end balancing I guess?  This was only the 2nd time at 100% per dash. The first time was when I picked it up from the dealer)

But this "playing with fire" should be enough to make anyone nervous.  Just another reason why charging to full on a regular basis is a bad idea and should only be done when the need is that great and immediately after the charge is completed.  The reality is BMS/LBC programming is apparently still work in progress!

The Charge

On my Winter Range test of sorts,  the end balancing of the pack too much longer than expected so I unplugged at 98% SOC. The car was only charging between 4 to 7 amps so wasn't missing a whole lot.  Well, the same thing happened here.  I get roughly 10% per hour of charge and the timer was set to start at 4 AM and add about 36% of charge.  At 8:30, I checked it expecting to be finished and it was still charging this time around 8 amps.  Ok, this was familiar.

Notice the OAT of 73º? Garage was nowhere near that warm. Looks like thermometer is too close
to the inverter which does get warm during AC (doesn't heat up during DC charging) charging. 

98% implies that there is still nearly 1.5 kwh to add. My meter which only shows one kwh increments did not change but its maximum  error could be 1.5 kwh so we will consider that if deciding to upgrade the meter some day.  BUT....

Hitting The Road!

So after completing the charge AND bumping it twice, I am now at 100% SOC per the GOM and my range... has gone down.  Yeah well, its the GOM, right!

So everything was set...except for the weather. It was raining. The weather stated 40% chance of rain so it was kind of a coin flip.  Taking off, I decided to aim for downtown Vancouver instead which was a 15 mile shorter drive round trip.  The wet roads lasted until around Castle Rock, then we flipped to partially cloudy skies and by the time I got to Vancouver, the A/C was on.

Arrival Vancouver

I was beginning to think my alternate route was a mistake since the weather was now quite gorgeous but then again 

FREE parking downtown Vancouver until June 30th!

So Vancouver was turning out to be as good a decision as the weather! Using Yelp, I found a parking space that had at least a half dozen highly rated eateries within a few blocks.  I was literally 2 blocks down the street when I saw this

Outside dining on the covered porch was simply too good to pass up! But I elected to do the A/C inside and that turned out to be the right decision as it got very warm in the direct sun and after a large bowl of pho noodles, I was more than warmed up! 

Another reason I selected Vancouver was due to a city park surrounding Lake Vancouver near by.  They had a lot of walking trails so after lunch I headed over there. 

Obviously someone with COVID 19 had been swimming here! 😏

After a few miles of walking off the food (Got a sandwich as well!) It was time to head back. My plan was to get back to town before the afternoon rush started.  The drive home was uneventful and warm. A/C was on most of the trip. My A/C does not respond to the thermostat which means despite it being set to 84º, it gets a bit too cold sometimes.  So I toggle the compressor on and off. I guess its better than not cold enough. 

LBW came on at 14.6% SOC per LEAF Spy and soon after that, I hit EPA!

I got back to town a few miles later but couldn't stop since my SOC data was not complete so I wandered around town a bit, did make a few quick stops and finally

Zero % SOC on GOM achieved at 237.4 miles. Yeah, was slow taking picture but only because it too so long to change. Increment from 1% to zero was 1.8% SOC on LEAF Spy! 

Why LEAF Spy Adds Range You Didn't Know You Had

So for all intensive purposes and for any writer reviewing the LEAF, the car has given its all, right?  The GOM range has been all dashes since 227.3 miles, the SOC  has been all dashes since 237.4 miles so we are done, right? On the verge of entering the "Towing Hall of Shame" right? 

Yeah well, we shall see. I decided to swing by the West Oly EA site to see if the cut cables had been replaced so that was a quick jaunt on the freeway there and back and then to the store and then home. Remember the 251 mile estimate on the GOM this morning?  Well, I have been bashing the GOM all day and well, lets face it; The job was not complete until... 

GOM exceeded and LEAF Spy says I still have enough for a MiSo run! 


  1. Excellent report! Yeah for Leaf Spy. The numbers
    shown seem to indicate a useable battery capacity
    of about 56.5 kwh. This is in line with a 4% SOH loss?


    1. Well...depends. Its really about what it says and it says 56.6 kwh available BUT the last .3 to .4 can't be accessed unless the pack is very well balanced. I had a pix I deleted by accident showing cell pack delta of 5 mV when I hit zero SOC on the GOM.

      I should have screenshot that at the end of the drive but didn't. But the 56.6 kwh was at SOC 98.3% which implies 57.6 kwh@ 100%.

      My new car stats showed 59.8 kwh @ 99.2% SOC which implies a 100% charge of 60.3 kwh. So how to measure loss?

  2. Dave, pretty impressive that your battery temperature didn't move too much above ambient in the 4 hours of driving (until last 10% of battery, which isn't that unexpected).

    Were you able to see what temp the battery settled in at when at mid battery in terms of heat generated in discharge vs. heat dissipation? In some autumn drives, I saw some equalization around a 20F difference between ambient and battery on long drives.

    1. If you look at last LEAF Spy shot, you see I am in the mid 80's and it was a slow rise until about 20 miles before hitting town and then had about an hour of street speeds with some freeway runs mixed in that kept the temperature the same. I hit temps right at 80º leaving Vancouver

    2. So basically I "peaked out" on the temperature rise. Hitting the road tomorrow for a hike on the coast. Will be monitoring temps again to see what happens. Should be much warmer than this trip.

  3. So, per yer Facebook comment, trusting GOM "not recommended", but your own little road test shows it to be quite accurate. Funny...

    1. I don't trust it because of its changing scale. If you read my blog, then you would know the scale changes constantly. Each 1% is different. Any 5% range from full to empty represents a different amount of battery capacity.

      But that isn't the bad part. The GOM abandons you when you need it the most. You are driving blind. You might be ok with it, but most people FREAK out. They don't like seeing zero's on the range estimate. Now, I have LEAF Spy so I don't need the GOM and I don't really look at it much anyway.

      But even if the GOM was perfectly accurate, it boils down to "did I remember to see what it said when I took off?"

      The other thing you need to realize is its only really accurate once during the entire 100 to "_ _ _" run...